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Lin Cheung

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Lin Cheung is a Co Director and Trainer at TA Training Organisation. Lin lives in Buxton, where she has a supervision and therapy practice. She also an exhibiting artist.

What did Lin have to say about her career as a psychotherapist?

Q1. How long have you been a psychotherapy trainer and how did you get into this as a career?

I’ve been working as a psychotherapist now since 2005 when I started my private practice in Chesterfield, where I was living at that time. I came into the career, like many people do, from having had my own experience of therapy.

That experience of therapy, which was transactional analysis, enlivened a long-held fascination with people. That wasn’t my sole motivation. I had also been working in business, in sales and marketing since I left university and I had been feeling dissatisfied with this work for a while. I was looking for something where I felt I would be making a contribution to society in a different way.

I began the training without a definite view that “I was going to become a psychotherapist.” It was very much a test it out process. I fell in love with the work, and am continually fascinated by the intellectual and psychological challenges it presents. And it is incredibly satisfying to me to know that my work can be a help to people.

Q2. Is there a specialist area that you are particularly passionate about and why?

I think my areas of interest in my work fall into three areas.

How politics, in the broadest sense, and power are part of therapy. Social justice is important for me. So one of the initiatives I’ve started here at TA Training Organisation is a merit scheme. This is an opportunity for someone who is a strong candidate but might struggle to afford the costs of training to benefit from a financial package.

These are also a themes that run through my teaching. I think as therapists it is important that we invite questions about issues of justice, fairness, prejudice, diversity, power, authority, and culture.

As an artist I’m interested in creativity. As a psychotherapist, trainer and supervisor I’m interested in how we bring our creativity to living our lives. And by this I mean that I think all people are innately creative and capable of developing new ways of approaching life. I’m also keen to encourage trainees and supervisees to think creatively about their work. To consider how they might refresh and update their understanding and knowledge of what they are doing.

Finally, like Andy, I am interested in relational theory. Particularly in unconscious processes and how they emerge in therapy, supervision and training.

Q3. Do you find that as a trainer you learn something as part of the sessions you run which you can take back to your own practise?

Almost always. I get a real buzz from the experience of working with a group of interested, engaged people. New ideas and perspectives emerge from the lively discussions on the training weekends. I thoroughly enjoy the stimulating debate about theory and the differences of opinion and experience that happen.

Q4. What advice would you give to someone who is thinking of taking up psychotherapy or counselling as a career?

I’d say follow your intuition. What is your instinct telling you about this idea you have to train as a counsellor or psychotherapist. Then get lots of information about what types of courses are out there. Don’t choose something just because its local. Find a course and trainers where you feel like you will learn in a way that suits you. I think fit is very important in these things. Take some time to explore first.

If you are not sure if the training is for you then you could take our email challenge to help you understand more about whether you might be the kind of person who will enjoy the work.

Q5. How do your training sessions support students in their careers?

I think our course itself equips people to be effective practitioners. We look at a wide range of theory both the early and current theoretical thinking. We consider the methods of how to do therapy. We consider questions of social justice, power politics, ethics. We pay attention to the context of being a practising psychotherapist in the the UK today. Andy and I have both worked in the NHS and have a private practice. We have a team of three core trainers working with us, Bev Gibbons, Beren Alridge and Michelle Hyams-Sekassi who all have a vast amount of knowledge and experience for our trainees to draw on.

Q6. Has there ever been a particularly memorable course that you have run and why?

I think some of the more recent sessions I have delivered on creativity have been fascinating. Our NETAC conference in 2018, and which we organise on behalf of UKATA, was exceptional. It was on a subject that is very close to my heart , “Power: the political and social responsibility of the practitioner.” Right now I’m really looking forward to working with Helen Rowland at the end of March when Helen and I will be running an advanced two day supervision group working using relational theory of supervision and paying attention to unconscious processes. It going to be great.

Like what you hear? Want to find out more? Why not book in for an information chat or download our application pack.

What is the Foundation Certificate in psychotherapy?

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Andy Williams, one of the Training Directors at TA Training Organisation talks about our 1 year Foundation Certificate in Transactional Analysis Psychotherapy.

Why train with us?

We offer exceptional training in smaller groups. Our training is outward looking. It is a pragmatic training which acts as a stand-alone qualification. In addition, it can lead to a career is psychotherapy if you wish to continue training beyond the Foundation Certificate.

We look at the social and political context in which we live and work and explore what this means for us as psychotherapists.

We offer a fresh, dynamic curriculum that is attentive to difference and diversity and social change.

Who trains with us?

We have applicants from a broad range of backgrounds; individuals from the business and corporate area looking at how to apply TA within their work more effectively, therapists and counsellors qualified in other fields, and those looking for their own personal development.

The Foundation Certificate is made up of 10 weekends across the academic year. We begin with getting to know each other and looking at contracting. We then explore areas including personal script, psychological games, attachment and child development theories.

At the end of the 1 year course, those who wish to continue can apply for the clinical training programme.

How do I apply?

The application process is really simple. Email us on contact@tatraining.org or call us to ask for an application form. Once we have your completed application, two of the course trainers will have an informal chat with you to see if this course is right for you.

Andy Williams

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Andy Williams
Andy Williams

One of our series of interviews with the trainers at TA training Organisation. Andy Williams is Co Director of TA Training Organisation and an experienced psychotherapist supervisor and trainer. Andy lives in Leeds and we tracked him down at the Training Centre in Horsforth.

Q1. How long have you been a psychotherapy trainer and how did you get into this as a career?

My passion for therapy developed when I was working in the corporate world, working for several large hotel companies.  I began to see how disjointed the workplace was and how abandoned and “missed” colleagues felt.  I knew from this time that I wanted to be a therapist, and then as I became more experienced, to train other therapists.  I qualified in Transactional Analysis and became a UKCP registered psychotherapist in 2005.

I have now been a trainer since 2008 and completed my final training exams in Europe in 2015.  Every journey in psychotherapy is ongoing. I can definitely say I learn something new every day. Especially from my colleagues.

Q2. Is there a specialist area that you are particularly passionate about and why?

When I think about therapy I think about freedom, emancipation and liberation. I want people to be free to be fully themselves; and to be comfortable in their skin.  This often leads me to be passionate about those who are at the margins and edges of our world.  I am very interested in the huge variety of gender identities, gender expression and differing sexualities.  I am also deeply committed to teaching and working particularly in the area of relational theory. I am fascinated to see what happens in the therapy relationship can be a mirror of our past.

Q3. Do you find that as a trainer you learn something as part of the sessions you run which you can take back to your own practise?

It is a great privilege to be a trainer. Humbling, and there is deep learning throughout every process and session.  Above all at the moment I feel I am learning to think!  I can be terribly impulsive and want to get things done and finished.  This is not a good process when considering being or learning to become a therapist.  Things take time and deep reflection.

Q4. What advice would you give to someone who is thinking of taking up psychotherapy or counselling as a career?

I feel generous and warm towards someone who is considering the profession.  I would encourage them to come and talk to someone, to take advantage of one of our free advice hours or to speak to other professionals and ask their advice and seek their experience.  You must find a course and environment that “fits” and goes well with your way of being. Here at TA Training Organisation there are several ways you can have an experience of what it might be like to train here. The TA 101 is a good first step.


Q5. How do your training sessions support students in their careers?

Well I see us as a totally applied training, we watch people becoming living and breathing practitioners.  This week during training we supported someone who was starting running their own business and their own private psychotherapy practice.  We train at the TA Training Organisation in order that people can go and do!  I see it as a very pragmatic process.

Q6. Has there ever been a particularly memorable course that you have run and why?

I have had a few disasters in my time!  I have learnt that it does help if the trainer reads the course brief before starting, so they don’t, for instance, deliver the wrong material to the wrong group. 

On a more serious note, I have greatly enjoyed working with external agencies and delivering training to them.  It’s been great working with some of the local universities and exploring integrative psychotherapeutic approaches in order to support the counselling for students service.

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Playing Detective – Or, is it ever really about the toothpaste?

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Psychotherapy is often like being a detective.  In learning how to be a psychotherapist we go on the hunt for what is the underlying meaning beneath the narrative the client brings. I often find myself thinking as I’m listening to a client describe their week – and a key event that has them troubled in some way – what is this person telling me?  What is this really about?  Eric Berne referred to his process as learning to speak Martian.

Supervision in Psychotherapy

Supervision in psychotherapy is where we can take our professional questions about our work.  In the beginning of our practice it is about learning how to be a psychotherapist with one to one support of another experienced psychotherapist.  Supervision is for learning and development, and for support.

Talking about listening for the underlying meaning is something I do with some of the people I supervise.  As they are learning how to be a psychotherapist, I will often talk about how we can be distracted from the meaning of what a client is telling us by the subject matter of the narrative.  One of the important developments for new therapists is learning to listen to the subtext.  Therefore to focus on the underlying psychological process rather than the happenings in the story.

Here’s an example composed from several typical stories from my clients to illustrate what I mean.

Is it really about the toothpaste?

Let’s suppose I have a client who comes and talks to me about how angry she is over the way her partner leaves the top off the toothpaste.  She finds this a revolting mess, and hates finding toothpaste all over the side of the sink. She tells me about her seething resentment and anger at having to clean up after her partner again. That it’s not fair that she always has to do this. She describes how she has spoken to her partner about this, but it just gets laughed off as unimportant.

How do we approach this kind of question therapeutically?  One way would be to look at alternative strategies around the toothpaste.  I might make suggestions to “problem solve” the toothpaste question.  I could suggest buying two tubes of toothpaste. I could encourage my client to talk to her partner and tell her how she feels.  We could work on my client finding a way to be more relaxed about mess.  All of these approaches might go some way to helping my client.  However as someone who is interested in speaking Martian with my clients I think about the underlying psychological process.

What is the underlying psychological process?

Therefore this means I will explore with her how this experience might remind her of her history.  We talk about how she feels when she cleans the sink yet again.  We make connections and see patterns in her experiencing of the world. We begin to understand that this is connected to being the eldest child in a family with four siblings.  What it felt like to be the one to tidy up after the other younger children.

So, the messy toothpaste in the present day is a powerful psychological reminder of the past.  Of a particularly difficult experience of being a child oneself and being made responsible for the tidiness of younger siblings, when you have no adult power to do so.  Of other memories as a teenager where her sisters would come into her room and mess about with her clothes and make-up and make a mess.  How powerless again she felt to do anything about this because parents would just tell her to “laugh it off because they’re only playing.”

Past and Present Day

We can look at what is happening today with my client’s partner with a fresh eye.   Connections between past and present can be explored.   We may see that this is not really about the top on the toothpaste. It is about how important it is for my client to be  listened to when her parents didn’t. About feeling that her needs are being recognised, heard and met.  About not feeling like the responsibility is always hers to tidy up another’s mess.

Next Steps?

Does this example interest you?  Would you like the task of uncovering how the past can be influencing our relationships in the present?  So, sometimes we get to play detective and the role of psychotherapist is to help the people we work with to understand how history and the present may converge.  That sometimes it’s really not about the toothpaste.

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Who Trains to Be a Psychotherapist?

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Supervision GroupAre you thinking that you might be interested in training as a psychotherapist or a counsellor? Wondering if this is the kind of work you might enjoy? Or if it’s for you?  One of the questions people often ask is,  “who trains to be a psychotherapist?”  They also want to know if people who apply come from a particular background, or employment history.  I will answer this last question first.  Whilst it can help to have previous experience in working with people in some kind of helping role, it is not essential.  Training to be a psychotherapist is as much about the kind of person you are, and mindset you have, as it is about having previous relevant job experience.  Let me talk you through some of the qualities we look for when we are accepting applications on to our training programme.

Having an Enquiring Mind

Curiosity, and having an enquiring mind are important qualities of being a psychotherapist.  Are you interested in people, why people think, feel and behave in the ways they do?  Do you want to understand ways of making sense of human behaviour?  Behaviour is so often a result of the underlying thoughts and feeling we may have about a situation. Sometimes those thoughts and feelings can be just outside of our awareness.  Or they can be more deeply buried in our unconscious.  As a psychotherapist one of your tasks is to facilitate people in uncovering their deeper thoughts, feelings and motivations regarding their behaviour.  So, it helps to be interested and curious in people because part of the role is to question and enquire about such things. Are you interested in asking questions like how and why?

Self-Directed Learning.

Other qualities that are important in who trains to be a psychotherapist is self-motivation and enjoyment of learning.  Training to work as a psychotherapist involves the acquisition of theoretical knowledge, practical experience in working with clients and self-development and awareness.  Because each person begins training with their own history and experience, each person’s journey will be different.

Secondly, as you set out on the training you will discover areas of the work that interest you more than others. You may develop a specialism in working with a specific group of clients, or want to work in a particular way.  Because of this, being willing and interested in developing your own learning journey is an important part of the training.  You will want to seek out and find your own sources of learning.  This might be in the form of additional training, with a supervisor with a relevant area of expertise, through research and reading. Therefore, you will need to be self-motivated and proactive.

Self-Development

The next area I am going to talk about is that of self-development.  You will need to have a keen interest and be committed to your own self development.  These are important qualities in who trains to be a psychotherapist.  A very big part of training as a therapist is about self-knowledge.  This is because therapists need to have enough emotional competence and internal resources to engage with the demands of the training and the work of psychotherapy.

Emotional competence is about understanding feelings.  It is also about how to express feelings appropriately and use them to inform your thinking.  Internal resources are about being ok with people who may be distressed.  It is also about recognising when you need help yourself.  How can we help others to know themselves if we do not understand ourselves?  So, most training will include a requirement for personal therapy.  Therefore, it is very important that you are willing to explore all aspects of yourself.  This includes your less positive attributes and qualities.  You can also use therapy to build more emotional competence and your internal resources.

Non-Judgemental Stance

Working as therapist will bring you into contact with a very wide range of people from different circumstances and backgrounds.  You do not need to know all about different cultures, religions and contexts.  To be a competent therapist you will need to have some awareness and sensitivity in relation to the political, socio-cultural and religious or spiritual contexts of people’s lives and how different they can be.  As well as this sensitivity you will also have some awareness of prejudice and the many forms it can take.  You will also need the ability to respond openly and without judgement to questions of race, gender, age, sexual preference, cultural difference, and diversity for example.

Self-Reflection

The final quality in this post about who trains to be a psychotherapist, is that of self-reflection.  Part of the task of the therapist is to think about their work, their clients and themselves because this is one of the ways we can learn about our work and practice and improve it.  Reflective practice is a skill that can be developed.  It is attended to during training in a variety of different ways; journaling, discussions and supervision are examples of reflection in practice.

Next Steps?

If you have found this a helpful post and want to take the next step then you can:

Sign up to our Five-Day Email Challenge.  Starting in January, we will be sending you an email a day for five days with a series of question and tasks based on this post.  Click here to sign up for the challenge.

Contact us for an interview for entry on to our next intake of students in September 2019.

Book on to the next TA101 course.  The TA101 is a great way to find out more about studying a psychological model.  It is also a personal development course so will be a great way of understanding yourself and others better.

Contact us for an informal discussion of career options.

What to expect on psychotherapy training

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Fish jumpingIf you are considering a career change to working as a psychotherapist this post is for you.  You will find out what to expect on psychotherapy training and particularly transactional analysis training.

Firstly, there are different approaches to training.

Types of  Psychotherapy Training Course

The academic model in a university is different to an apprenticeship or competency-based model. Both models are based on meeting requirements.  These will be a mixture of demonstrating competency, attaining certain skills and meeting specific requirements.

An academic model the training is driven by academic years or a set timescale.  With this approach students/trainees are tasked with achieving skills and  completing tasks within a set time-frame.  In an apprenticeship models of training the meeting of the requirements are not linked to a specific timescale.  The latter model can offer a great deal of flexibility in the process towards the goal of qualification.

The length of time of training and the emphasis on theory teaching and clinical practice can vary according to the modality or type of psychotherapy being studied.  In general however there are five main areas to think about.  Thinking about what to expect on psychotherapy training, the first area is learning about theory or studying a psychological model.

A Psychological Model

A psychological model or modality of psychotherapy is usually a set of theories and ideas about people and their psychology.  Transactional analysis psychotherapy has theories about personality structure, child development, communication and relationship, groups. It also has set of theories about psychopathology.  In more straightforward language,  theory about how psychology can be problematic and mean that people have difficulties in living their lives.  It is important in considering which training to choose that the model you select holds some fundamental truths for you.  It needs to “makes sense” to you, so that you are studying a model that is congruent with your beliefs and values about people and how they function.  In studying a psychological model the tasks will be to learn and understand the key theoretical concepts that are are part of the theory, and to understand how to apply them in working with clients.

Clinical practice – Seeing clients under supervision

The second aspect of training is that of gaining experience in working with clients. This is always done under supervision by a more experienced therapist.

Before seeing clients, trainees are usually asked to demonstrate that they can use counselling skills effectively to problem solve in a counselling situation.  You will also need to show that you have a general foundation level of understanding of TA.  Then you will begin to offer counselling and psychotherapy to your own clients.  Most people usually beginning with two of three clients a week and build this slowly.  You will attend supervision and play tapes to your supervisor of you working with your clients. Sometimes you will simply discuss the work you are doing.  Supervision is a teaching and learning activity for the development of the trainee’s skill and competence in clinical work.

Personal Therapy – developing understanding of self, self-awareness and reflexivity.

Personal therapy and personal development is another key aspect of the training to work as a psychotherapist because self-awareness and self-knowledge are important qualities in an effective practitioner.  Many courses will have a requirement for trainees to engage in a period of personal therapy.  Some courses will require that therapy is for the duration of training.  The purpose of therapy is to provide a significant experience of therapy.  The therapist needs to have experienced therapy that is similar to the work they will be doing. Personal therapy is also for the support of the practitioner because the work can have an emotional and psychological impact.  Working through one’s own personal psychological material helps us to be able to effectively work with others.  Finally a good psychotherapist will have a consistent and robust habit of reflection because it supports their ongoing development and learning.

So, in addition to studying theory and seeing clients, what else can you expect on psychotherapy training?

Professional development

Even as a trainee once you begin seeing clients part of your development is to begin to develop your own specific areas of interest. Some of this might be in the form of specific shorter training. It might also be through reading, workshops, conferences and supervision.  There are a variety of activities that can fall in to this category and all are about how you choose to develop your interests as a practitioner.  So examples of what this might look like could be developing an interest in another modality perhaps CBT or EMDR.  It might be about working with a specific client group or a particular way of working for example outdoor therapy.

Mental health placement

Part of the requirement for psychotherapists in the uk is to be familiar with the management and treatment of mental health in the uk because there will be times when you may need to refer clients on to other professionals.   The mental health placement will involve you meeting a variety of people. Including  service users with more severe mental health problems, staff who work with people in this area and gaining an understanding of the services available and approaches used.

Next Steps?

Training to work as a psychotherapist involves a wide education including the development of theoretical knowledge and understanding, broad clinical experience and personal development through self-awareness and self-knowledge. It is about developing as a professional with all the experience, skill, ethical awareness and responsibility that entails, along with the rich rewards of a stimulating and rewarding field of work.

Now you have a better ideas about what to expect on psychotherapy training what are the next steps?

Introduction to TAA TA101 is a great way to experience studying a psychological model, go to our events page to check out the next date. Or read about this two day course here.

Our Foundation Certificate course is a one year part time course which is also the first year of our clinical training. Read more here.

Or, if you would like to find out more about this type of training and career then we offer free informal chat with one of our trainers.  Contact us on contact@tatraining.org to arrange a time and date.

Open Day – Train as a Psychotherapist

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So, you think you might want to begin psychotherapy training?

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You probably have lots of questions as you think about making this potential career change with psychotherapy training. TA Training Organisation are having an Open Day on Saturday 21st July 10.30am until 1pm for prospective trainees.  You can come along, see the training centre, meet us and ask any questions before taking the step of applying.

For many people psychotherapy training  is a career change.  Making such a significant life change we thought it might be helpful for people to meet us prior to applying are so that you can find out if psychotherapy might be the career for you.  Psychotherapy is often a second career for people particularly in the UK.  For example, Lin had a 20 year successful career in sales and marketing before she set up her private practice.  Andy worked in hotels and schools in management positions.

Open Day

What is the plan for the Open Day? Here are some of the items on our agenda.

We will be talking about the kind of person who trains to be a therapist and what some of the longer-term career options look like that are available.

We will also talk about what is involved in training to be a therapist.  Learning about theory which involves studying a psychological model.  We will outline some of the requirements that are involved outside of the taught elements. For example, seeing clients, having supervision and your own personal therapy.

There will be some thoughts from us on the different kinds of training that is available.  We will talk about the difference between going to a university  or attending a smaller training institute owned, run and managed by practising psychotherapists.

We will tell you about the training course we offer at TA Training Organisation in Horsforth, Leeds.  Our ethos and philosophy and what it would be like to train with us now – group sizes, facilities available.

Finally, both Lin and Andy will do a short teach on a TA topic to give you a taste of the type of thing you can expect on the programme we run.

Book Your Place

This is a great opportunity to find out more and get your questions answered if you are thinking about this career change.  Reserve a place on the Open Day now and we look forward to meeting you soon.

If you would like to come along, please do get in touch and let us know you are attending by booking a ticket using the button below – so we can make sure we allow enough time for your questions.

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Contracts and Contracting

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Lin Cheung talks about contracts and contracting and their importance within the transactional analysis model.

What is contracting?

Contracting is one of the key principles of how we work as transactional analysts. As they say “If you are not contracting, you aren’t doing TA” This is a really interesting idea but what does it mean?

I think its about being clear about what we are doing and why we are doing it. And that its not just me that is clear about that but also the person I am working with. It applies across the board, whether we are in an organisation working as a coach, if we are doing organisational consultancy, if we are a psychotherapist, if we are a counsellor. Its about being clear and not having any confusion about what we are here to do and what the end outcome is.

Charlotte Sills uses the word ‘confusion’ and I really like that idea. What we are seeking is clarity. This doesn’t necessarily happen straight away and can often be emergent. Moment by moment we are seeking clarity – ‘What does this mean to me right now?’

Our clients often come to us, as psychotherapists, without a sense of what they are seeking and a big part of what we are there to do is to help them work it out for themselves and then to have a shared idea of the goals of psychotherapy and how we are going to get there.

That is contracting for me.

We explore contracts and contracting in our Foundation Certificate course which runs each academic year, September – July.